I think this is the burnout decade. There isn't a will is there because I did. Like we've got ourselves into a situation where work is intruding into every aspect of our lives, where we are never allowed to switch off. We're like our level of responsibility to be conscious about everything all the time has become just bigger than our brains are capable of holding. And we feel profoundly disconnected from all of the solaces that might help us in that. You know it is a conversation about capitalism ultimately really and the way that it's set up...We only know how to derive our self-esteem from the system that there is now"

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