The Importance of Naming a Common Enemy

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The race class narrative, one of the outputs was a whole set of actual messages and how you start with connecting listeners to their common humanity. "No matter whether we're white, black or brown, no matter where we come from we all want to be able to put food on our tables for our kids" The idea of naming a common enemy who wants us to be divided is really important," he says.

Heather McGhee is an author and policy advocate with a focus on reducing inequality. She is Board Chair for the organization Color Of Change and a former CEO of the think tank Demos. McGhee is the author of The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together .

In this week’s conversation, Yascha Mounk and Heather McGhee discuss why progress for one ethnic group need not come at the expense of another; how racial animus has been used in the past to divide Americans who share fundamental interests; and whether the recent focus on "race-sensitive" public threatens to reignite zero-sum competition between different racial groups.

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