i don't care what you call yourself or how you see yourself. It doesn't matter, because the stuff is getting done," she says. "Any time anybody's enthusiastic about change, which i quonqo consider anorme" 'We need folks who don't see themselves as like, political beings to awaken to be like and i don't even care if they see themselves as political beings,' he adds. ''I know that i recognize that description of people seeming more like themselves when they've demonstrated some, some courage and are in some struggle together'
Guest host Gabriel Winant interviews labor journalists Alex Press and Jonah Furman, as well as IATSE member Victor P. Bouzi.
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