St insider is a podcast hosted by s and p globel. We explore environmental, social and governmence issues that are shaping investor activity and company strategy. This week we look at the challenge of de carbonizing the real estate industry. One of o guests is the chief e s g officer for one of the most famous structures around the world - the empire state building in new york city. The cast also interviews a non profit group working on decarbonization of the city's buildings.

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