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Is There Such a Thing as Big Government?
"I don't agree with most of what you just said, but let me break down a few points where I disagree with," he says. "If a government is so small that the night watchman state where you could drown in a bathtub, then it's not a position to impose any kind of weak law and order regardless." He doesn't think at all there is a view of both sides that they regard the state as a legitimate.