This week on the CAFE Insider podcast, Joyce Vance is joined by guest co-host Elie Honig while Preet is out. Elie served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in the Southern District of New York, and he is now a CAFE contributor, the host of CAFE’s Up Against the Mob podcast, and a senior legal analyst at CNN.

In this excerpt from the show, Joyce and Elie break down reporting from ABC News that Trump directed his former assistant to tell investigators that she did not know that he was storing classified documents at Mar-a-Lago, and that Trump wrote to-do lists on classified documents.

In the full episode, Joyce and Elie discuss developments in Trump’s Fulton County, Georgia case:

– Efforts by former DOJ official Jeffrey Clark and three fake electors to remove the Georgia state case to federal court;

– The likelihood that Trump also attempts to transfer the Georgia case to federal court; and

– Elie’s criticism of DA Fani Willis’s decision to bring charges against Trump in the first place.

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