60 seconds OR She dies | A conversation with a Hostage Negotiator | The Basement w- Tim Ross #044
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The Importance of Humility
"I'm trying to grow you up, man. I ain't going to just have evangelism passives on here," he says. "We trying to grow up. That can't happen unless we bring on people that stretch you." He adds: "Derek is a stretcher. He will stretch you".
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