How Did You Escape a Fate Worse Than Death?

I loved looking at companies, both my parents or entrepreneurs. I loved how businesses worked and to think in that way. Having a credit corporate background has been hugely powerful because I tend to every analysis we do, big picture starts bottoms up. And so now by the part of part of what we merged into BlackRock was we did, you know, we had a tough go in 2008, but then started to do well in 2009.