After the whole Dawkins, a new atheist stuff, there was much discussion in atheist, humanist, capital circles. Do we need to replace religion? A lot of humanists, like I remember Paul Kurtz who founded Psychop and, and, and the free inquiry and the two magazines. He told me he gave me his little eye of a dream speech. You know, we're going to have a secular church in every city... And even that appears to be a dead idea now. But you don't have to do all that. You can just find it in your life right now.

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