The Best Way to Love a Place Is Not to Be There

Celebrating the release of their new book Reckoning, Kimberly Ann Johnson and Stephen Jenkinson grapple with the key themes of their convergence: grief, heartbreak, culture work, elderhood, and the prevalent myth of individualism in this Me First era we find ourselves in.

Three times as many people listened to their 2021 conversations (Episodes 135 and 136) than any other talk, which led to a five conversations series, an exchange of letters, and now Reckoning.

To order the book - hardback, paperback, or audiobook - go to:

www.orphanwisdomschool.com/reckoning

Bullet points won't do this episode justice, so buckle in for the two-hour ride that is more in the spirit of the original conversations than about the book itself.