Ryan: I was not the person that some one would have looked at and said, there's a leadernot. My first meeting was held in a strip club because that's where men held meetings with clients,. And i think they were trying to sort of scare me. The purpose of leadership is to solve problems. There are very good managers, but they're usually operating within the way things are. They operate within the status quo. Leaders change the way thing are. Em it was sort of a sinker swim philosophy.

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