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Episode Twenty-Six: Debbie Zappia

Training Without Conflict Podcast

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How to Succeed in Dog Training

Even today with all the success, you're still very curious about what is out there and who's doing what. I think when you look at somebody who's been in this as long as I've been in this, you're coming from a point of view that I knew absolutely nothing. And so I really can feel for people who haven't done this sport before and who are trying to learn and do things because I was there. You saw those apparatuses and you thought, oh my gosh, how am I ever going to do this? How am I going to get a dog to go over this?"

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