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August 2, 2023: The key revelations in the new Trump indictment

The Playbook Podcast

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The Grand Jury's Power to Extract Detail That Even Congress Was Not Able to Get

Kyle Brennan: A lot of what's in this indictment isn't new. We've known it before. And certainly someone like you who's covering this extremely closely knew it before. But a few things struck me in the specifics, he says. You'd see things like from Vice President Pence's contemporaneous notes of a conversation but we've never seen those notes. The January 6 committee never saw those notes; prosecutors certainly have seen them. There are certain text messages that Rudy Giuliani, one of the co-conspirators in this case, were sending to state legislators and other leaders. That was something we hadn't heard before.

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