"It's a 180 degrees you know out of phase with everybody else it's risky but it gives you the freedom and it's the best thing for America well" "We're not trying to get people to shift over to some crazy like you know subscription software as a service model as you know that has a short history of success most of what we're doing there things that have actually worked out for for really really long time," he says. The company is also one of the youngest companies to win a federal program of records since the end of the Korean War. 'There's a reason we keep winning major programs of record'

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