Albert Azout is the Co-founder and Managing Partner of Level Ventures, combining first-principles thinking with state-of-the-art data science to back and build top seed-stage firms and their breakout companies.

Venture investing is hard, and this conversation covers all their research unpacking exactly how to generate alpha.

We also talk about how Level picks and backs emerging venture managers to invest in, and Albert gives a demo of the custom internal software they’ve built.

Thank you to Jake Kupperman, Sasha Kaletsky, Nathan Benaich, Amanda Robson, and Dave Fontenot for helping brainstorm topics for the conversation.

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Timestamps:

(5:01) Top 3 forms of alpha in VC

(10:11) Other ways to generate alpha

(12:47) Avoiding false positives

(17:11) Optimal fund size and portfolio construction

(22:25) The role of Luck

(23:55) Spin-out vs outsider funds

(25:43) Level’s backchannel reference process

(29:29) Finding alpha in Criticality Investing

(34:45) Why capital flows drive all returns

(43:53) Early, consensus investing has the most alpha

(48:46) Networks are more persistent than performance

(52:03) The strongest and weakest networks

(58:41) Demo of Level’s internal software

(1:04:48) Building a Fund of Funds around their data

(1:10:01) Ideal LP GP relationship

(1:12:39) Benchmarks are relative

(1:15:39) VC funds using AI

(1:17:43) How venture will change in the next 10 years

Referenced

Level Ventures: https://levelvc.com/

Level’s Research Papers: https://levelvc.com/research/

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