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Timothy Garton Ash - on Ukraine’s role in Europe | Thinking in Dark Times # 17

Explaining Ukraine

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The Struggles of Visiting Ukraine During the Big War

I've been twice actually in the last six months, to Lviv and then to Kiev. It was for me an absolutely electrifying experience. I mean, you know, Britain is still defined by 1940, and I'm sure Ukraine will be defined for decades to come by 2022, 2023. Beyond that, the dynamism, the self-confidence, the mixture of idealism and realism, and then two other things. The fact that every second word was Europe, right? And that the hopes of the country and the hopes of freedom were so much bound up with the hopes of Europe."

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