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The Four Categories of Enlightenment
I believe that they weren't lying to themselves, at least most of them. There were a couple of people who I felt more impressed by in the sense that like they said things that felt like it. They said things that like resonated something that I felt like was deeper wisdom in me. But you know, I have like my own specific view and other people, their own specific view. So it's like, who's really, who knows what's going on? I don't fucking know. The four categories are not perfect by any means. It roughly seemed like there were people who reported enlightenment feelings that didn't have to do with spirituality. And then there were the standard enlightenment people