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DO 82 - Jack Murphy w/ Tucker Max and Ashley Colby

Doomer Optimism

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How Did Expectation Meet Reality?

Tucker: Do you agree about the psychedelic quality of spending time on land or cultivating? Joe Norman: There's a million qualifications I could say. The first thing that comes to mind is that it was hard. Like, we had a general contractor, a member of ours, lined up to come. He helped plan the whole project for months in advance. But he got injured, like three days beforehand and couldn't come. So there was an exceptional amount of figuring it out. It hurt my brain. Trying to work with a set of carpentry plans just show something and you have to figure something out.

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