I think putting in the process upfront is really important because you can flounder around and then just spending a few four or five hours upfront talking to a few folks coming to the good process can massively improve. that you can see a pretty big difference between the founders that you work with that do this sort of process and put in the time and don't 100% I think it's very important to set the direction of hiring how exactly are you going to hire what the process is what your messaging is going to be before you do stuff once you have hired someone you get them a title.

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