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#821: Jon Ronson Returns

Knowledge Fight

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The Debutante

I'm fascinated by the idea of like you actually talking to her and having this point of view and me not and coming away with a different one. That's again, that's one of the things that I find fascinating is because you and I both know that at the very least she was lying to you sometime. We know the stuff. So then our conversation is like how much? Yeah. And that's a conversation that we're never going to get an answer to. But it's kind of one or the other. You can either go in just on a practical level. You canEither go into an individual Patterson thinking by his bested line to me or go in and just think,

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