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# 30: Insomnia - Part 5

The Matt Walker Podcast

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Insomnia

Those emotion generating regions, those regions that will fire up rumination within the brain, they remained over active inpatienc with insomnia. The same signature of hyper activity was also seen even further deeper, down right at the bottom of the brain,. That deep primal brain stem egion stubbornly continued its wakeful activity watch and thereby maintained their alertness. Unfortunately, the thalamus also remained over active. And therefore, the patients with insomnia couldn't seem to shut off from the outside world. They were running those overactive routines. It's a little bit like when you closed the lid down on your laptop but then come back 30 minutes later, i think i can still see the

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