Ike: I thought it was interesting that high hills were started for men. Heels are sure, ecause it's not practical at all. But if their legs do look different, lik os, i don't if it's better or worse? Don't know. World without heels, i wonder what be like. Much like the swimmer, i just don't care. And i also thought this podcast was cool out, sort of got broken down. Like the first our was them getting to know each other, and they talked about fighting and stuff,. Then they almost pivoted in the sarta, physics. It helps that joe is like in there, youa laugh on