"There's so many ways to attack a problem you. I've sometimes worked with people like this, and i can think literally of ten to 20 ways to achieve the thing that we're talking about right now," he says. "I don't think it happens in a single instant, even if the decision itself is a single instant." 'You have to build up to it, build up your your sense of it and the possibility of it, before you canr before you canget. It gets real'

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