The failure of her second company, in having to shut that down was the most painful professional experience i've ever had. It taught me so many lessons, and it allowed me to tap into my self awareness. When we were starting the company, this was a conversation that came up between rolho and i were he's like, im to be the c of the company. And ive found that the best s e os, without sounding too harsh here, are like a bit of control freaks, like they exercise control. I look for a ceo who has ension for that.

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