Narendra Nath Dhar Dubey is a former Director General of the Border Security Force (BSF). He led a crucial operation in 2003 to capture terrorist Ghazi Baba, who was responsible for the 2001 Indian Parliament attack. During the operation, Dubey was shot multiple times, and one of the bullets still remains lodged in his body. He was awarded the Kirti Chakra for his bravery.
Sanjiv Krishan Sood is a retired Additional Director General of the BSF. In his 38 years of service, he served along all of India’s borders with Pakistan and Bangladesh, including 8 years on the Line of Control and in the Samba sector of Jammu and Kashmir.
In this edition of the ANI Podcast with Smita Prakash, both officers talk about what it takes to guard India’s borders and how difficult it is to stop infiltration along the Line of Control. They also speak about Operation Sindoor and what goes on in the mind of a soldier posted at the border.
The conversation also covers the operation against Ghazi Baba, the Attari–Wagah border ceremony, and the growing threat from drones.
*Audio Timestamps*
00:00 – Introduction
01:25 – BSF Foils Drone Entry Near Amritsar
08:25 – Challenges of Drone Warfare
09:56 – Challenges of Terrorist Hunt in Pahalgam
13:26 – BSF’s PK Shaw Case
21:40 – Will Pakistan Strike Back?
25:31 – India’s Anti-Drone Strategy
28:02 – Gazi Baba Encounter
38:32 – Cost of Killing Gazi Baba
40:16 – Operation Sindoor & Bahawalpur Attack
44:36 – Troop Morale After Attacks
47:01 – Troops Emotions vs Public Rage
52:53 – Role of Human Informants
01:00:40 – India-Pakistan Peace Talks Recalled
01:03:28 – Firing Decision on Border
01:10:37 – Recalling Funny Incidents on the Border
01:15:22 – Wagah Ceremony Debate
01:19:36 – Dealing with PTSD
01:23:40 – Operation Blue Star
01:27:07 – Do Soldiers Get PTSD Counselling?
