Timothy Stanley: Some CEOs or parents, by the way, your kids are teenagers. You have this concept of parent CEOs and then babysitter CEOs, right? And the parents push you and the babysitter just makes sure you don't die. So I think that, like you said, what these companies get so big, I think these companies need to go through some kind of existential crisis to actually help them solve their cultural issues.Stanley: Apple prints money. How would you evaluate that company now? Well, it's the number one company in the world, right?

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