i didn't start out as a rodent expert, and i think that's something that, you know, some of my colleagues would also come from that background. I was sent out to these villages where people were complaining oftainn, mainly post harvest losses. They were storing em in their house, all stacked up inside maize crops. And so we started trapping in some of these houses, and i was catching, on average, a hundred ratsin house. So that kind of opened my eyes to a problem that was being neglected. And i felt we need to do something about this.