i'm envious when i talk to young people that have the ability that they did this. Evan spegl says, when he was 21, he's like, my two unchpene heroes are steve jobs and edwin land. I mean, lives are made of books. In this case, like you're studying a life, and you see all the influences on that person. Like, who your heroes are? Extremely important. That's why i asked the very first thing we talkd ts, who were our heroes?

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