There are people who ring the bell in the seals because they don't respond to someone calling them a maggot. Kumail told me the story, I believe he told it on this podcast that when he was really going for his rippedness, his trainer, Kumail couldn't do the whatever. He couldn't get it up the 10th time. And his trainer went, one of his trainers went pathetic. Like, you had to call it out. It's just funny to me that in the Marines or the Navy, or you can't go like, can we try a different? There's different brains. There's different psyches and there's different emotional response systems.

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