
Scott from Evolution FM Interviews Me
Simply Always Awake
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The Importance of Pleasure and Pain
I like to put quotes in the book from all kinds of people from scientists from philosophers and masters. I think it's a pleasure and pain inseparable. You've you come to this place where you're like you can't even differentiate anything anymore. It's undifferentiated reality. Sometimes the most intense physical sensations bring you there. But when mind identifications happening you won't go anywhere near that. When it's about intense emotional experiences or intense pleasure or intense pain, you go into a psychological fear state which keeps you in your mind. And that's collapses. This is deep stage realization we're talking about. We don't get this with the first awakening usually takes some time and integration
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