The Speed of Transformation in the Mining and Industrial Industry

Ahmed Lungus: The pace of change in this space is going to be slow because some of these human centric mining and industrial operations are years and decades in the making. It can take you 18 months to do a capital upgrade of say a crushing system that integrates with a conveyor that does X, Y and Z. And so none of this is quick. Some of those operations have a life of mine, for example, that goes 20 to 30 years. For them to scrap completely and start from scratch can be very unrealistic. So it's not fortunately or not, it doesn't matter that can depend on your opinion, but it's definitely not just about being productive as well.

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