I was actually working in A&E that we can when it occurred. It's one of those things that you'll just never ever forget. Where were you when Mandela was released? Can you remember? Oh, I don't know. I think I was too young. So tell me about how you actually went into gerontology itself. Like what was the triggering interest for this amazing world of reversing aging? You've got tons of questions I want to ask you, but I'll save that for the second part. But when did it actually come onto your radar? Well, I did a series of radio programs for the BBC on the biology of some time back. One of them was

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