The Differences Between Hotel and Venue in Europe

This year was a little bit different because the hotel and, and the venue itself are separate entities. So we don't have the room trade for a event space that we had with previous years. We actually have to do a separate big chunk of the money upfront to cover the, the venue costs as well. I think COVID, CO VID, COVID really hurt, hurt us. And then we had the organizers in Porto who did a fantastic job. Getting out of the habit of having it being a different location each time meant that that transfer of knowledge got lost a little bit. If anyone wants to set up a, you know, a definite Europe, we could use it.