There's lots of gun violence. They put in severe gun restrictions, violence keeps going up. Did the restrictions work? You don't know. The answer is, there's no way to know. Why would you use the bad arguments when there are good ones? Here's the good argument. Guns are good for some people on average, and bad for others. It i arguing that guns make you less safe, or the guns make you more safe, you're into nonsense territory.

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