Spinal ESP

The spine ESP procedure compared to our goals for, say, thoracobdominal indications, we are hitting the top of the transit process there and just putting it dorsal. Cause I actually don't want to get any ventral spread. All I want is that is that dorsal or amis. For lumbar ESPs, that is practically oftentimes the only way I can do it because it's so deep and the muscle so thick. And they're fairly easy to see prominent transit processes.