We're back with doctor elizabeth mc mann and our listener, peter, who's working through his fear of cockroaches. Elizabeth often uses virtual reality techniques to help her patients confront their fears in a safe environment. We'll stare directly into a cockroach's beady little eyes and put all these techniques to the test. If you rely on how to, the best way to support this show is by joining slate plus. It's just one dollar for your first month.

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