The Importance of Hearing the Patient Voice

I've shared empowered beyond pain to at least 10 patients in the past two years. I think hearing the patient voice is really important for that, especially in their own language and they can definitely relate and resonate with other people's experiences. That's a huge value. And you've done a lot of work with your recent PhD and the recent paper that came out from protection to non-protection was freaking awesome. There's been talks around with a few different groups so who knows what will happen? But I think they're such fantastic ways. People can listen to them in the car. They can listening to them while they're walking or they're cleaning.