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423: Celeste Headlee | How to Have Conversations That Matter
The Jordan Harbinger Show
I'm Glad to Hear That NPR Is Actually Growing Steadily
npr is growing, and it has been growing steadily. After nine 11 and par got a gigantic boost in listeners and we didn't lose it. Now, m par is also dominating the podcast field, but the terrestrial radio signal dwarfs pod casting and record hie. And then there's stuff that people don't fee the need to wear tea shirts. Or maybe our listeners aren't the loudest. Maybe they're just quieter so they make less of a splash. But they're out there, and they're in the millions.
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