I assumed, as i was writing te book, that pain unchosen pain and anxiety and stress and emotional pain, humiliation, grief, all share somethingd. But it seems to me as if maybe because pain, physical pain, is so often aversive, we are just using this as a metaphor for the kinds of averse experience that are really suffering for humans. There are plenty of times where i feel pain, where it's not particular suffering. The suffering comes from anticipating it, i guess. So some pain could be pleasant. Ornatural plossing, i find that flossing and digging into my gums, yes, good. It's a good pain, you know