The singer-songwriter was kicked out of an art school in the middle of nowhere for smoking pot and getting in trouble. He then stumbled into columbia college design school, where he met a professor who helped him explore guitar making. The biggest lesson i learned from fred hand, he said, it's not about you. Like t people who want to hear your music. You're here as a doorway. If you're nervous about not being prepared, that's on you. But their anxiety that you have about performing, about being on the stage, i like, it'snot about you,. It's about the music and representing somebody else's music for the people.

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