Is There Something More Going on With LSD?

Gottlieb is convinced that there must be something more going on with this particular substance. He's having like experimenting on expanding his consciousness with hallucinogens. And then when he actually uses them on people, it's the same way you'd use like a fucking razor blade on a person you have tied up or whatever. Like there's not, he's not being subtle. There's no like artifice to it. It's just cruelty.