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Introduction
Christian Guru Murthy: Why do we all eat stuff that isn't food and why can't we stop? Chris, welcome. I'm absolutely fascinated by the ideas in your book and what you're saying. We better just lay out our terms, what we're talking about first of all. Ultra processed food is not an informal term like junk food. It's a formal category of foods. The way I'd think about it is for every real food, there is an ultra processed alternative that is a better way of extracting money from us.