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The Role of Bribery in the Rise of Poverty
Matt Lauer: Wouldn't you argue that it's a human right to be able to get a bribe or to take out a predatory loan? "Anders, you make a great point. Like, one of the ways they've lifted people out of poverty was to literally change the definition of poverty," he says. But ultimately, by redefining and lowering the bar for being out of poverty, more people who are not in poverty now suddenly have more people who're not in poverty. 'You can tell my jokes are funny when we all have to clarify that it'm a joke,' she adds.