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Phil Stutz + Barry Michels on The Tools (Encore)

The New Man

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The Fear of Falling Down

"Real strength is. I've fallen down so many times and gotten myself back up again," he says. "We can't afford to go in the loser's circle because then it's over." He tells a story about a successful man who said, 'I'm going to fold up my tent' After three or four months of depression, that man had to be hospitalized.

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