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CNLP 467 | Rick Warren on Leaving a Legacy of Integrity, Why Megachurch Pastors Fail, and Lessons Learned Over 42 Years at Saddleback

The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast

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We Need More Rabbit Churches Than We Need Giant Ones

"If i had stayed in redwood valley, where i grew up, i could have spent forty years there and the church would still be 35 people," he says. At saddle back we plant all three kinds. We've planted tens of thousands of rabbit churches, which are small groups. And if we're going to win the world, we got to start more of those than anything else."

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