Rafe Kelley and I discuss his recent transformational experiences with Christianity, then consider the best sense-making frames for such life-altering religious experiences. What are the role of Christianity's traditional propositional claims relative to direct experiential encounters with the Christ archetype? Can the activation of transformational memetic archetypes actually require acting "as if" some false claims are true?

0:00 Introduction

2:06 Character: Who Do You Want to Be?

7:08 Rafe's Background

30:35 The Christian Lure in the West

49:56 Mythos and Logos

1:03:25 Rafe's Conversion

1:16:45 Experience vs. Theology

1:26:17 Faith and the Transhistorical

1:39:22 Toggling into the Christ Archetype

1:47:17 Metamemes, Consciousness, and Believing "As If"

1:57:18 Building the Cathedral

2:03:58 Conclusion