The founders of Atlassian are like deeply first principled in their thinking and approach things. They would say, well, why did they choose to do it that way? And I think what they were rooting out was if everybody was just choosing, you know, a certain, certain way to do things because they just seen somebody else do it. The company is very long term oriented so they're also calibration for them once they believe this is the problem at a young age.

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