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Episode 45: Henry Shukman (Second Conversation)

Rupert Spira Podcast

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Taking the Shape Into Yourself

I was 20 years old when i went to work with michael cardew. He was like a cantankerous old zendmaster. And am he never really described anything or explained anything. You were just expected to, you know, take the medicine and carry on. That's the way it worked in the pottery its its own way. I had no idea what it meant to take a shape into yourselfa - there was no explanation that accompanied it. But if you're just patient and of basically gradually somehow let yourself go, more things will just come up by themselves. They're not always what they're waiting for, but sometimes they are.

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