Is There a National Service Point?

Pocas: Where is it when you introduce each other as offposit sides of a political spectrum, you can't even get a conversation going. You know, i'm glad to were go ot and with this last bit here, because i really enjoyed, i think the best pocas appearance you did to promote the book was your sit of ezra kline. Ezra was pushing you in a pessimistic direction. You kept pushing back, saying, we have to be optimistic. Way better.