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Episode 61 - Interview with Michael Rezl (U/LetsTalkUFOs) | Ladder of Collapse Awareness

Breaking Down: Collapse

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What Do You Know About Paul Traferka?

This week's episode of Collapse is about the ladder of awareness. It was written up by Paul Traferka, who describes how he himself went through the same process in a pretty severe way. He said there was a while there where he didn't know if he wanted to continue living because it was so hard for him and was able to find some peace. We'll talk a little bit later on in the episode about the different types of coping that he refers to as sort of this inner versus outer coping strategy.

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